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Reporting Joshua Ocampo's "Punishment"

#1
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2019, 08:20 PM by *Milk.)

Your RP Name
>> ✔Milk✔

Are you reporting Staff or Players?*
>> "Staff"

What are their names?*
>> Joshua Ocampo

What are their SteamIDs?*
>> STEAM_0:1:483500260

What happened?* (give us as much detail as possible, including evidence)

>> I was on the server, and got shot by Hxveyyy, twice with a Spas-12. As shown in logs:
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Due to me believing it to be RDM, I call a sit, along with Hxveyyy adverting it as a Missclick x3
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Joshua Ocampo takes the sit, and brings me and Hxveyyy, and asks:
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In my opinion, shooting someone "for the meme" and adverting "Missclick" with the amount of times you shot them is invalid. If you think otherwise, then aight I'll follow along.


Joshua Ocampo issues a verbal warning, the reason why I've made this report is that I don't think that's a suitable punishment.
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In the Staff Handbook, it states that:
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Hxveyyy is not in any way, shape or form a "newer player", he's been staff twice, and has the highest playtime on the server.

#2

Reason behind the punishment of a Verbal warning was.
2 spas 12 fired during 1 second
He adverted Missclick letting you know he didn't mean to do it.
The shots only hit you and wasn't a continued missclick
None of you had any evidence that the shot was done on purpose.
He shot for the meme in the beggining but he didn't kill you for the meme.

I understand he isn't a newer player but the chance of someone accidentally shooting someone isn't higher if they are a newer player
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#3

(01-11-2019, 08:49 PM)Joshua Ocampo Wrote: 2 spas 12 fired during 1 second
Logs don't show miliseconds, there was a delay between the two shots.

(01-11-2019, 08:49 PM)Joshua Ocampo Wrote: He adverted Missclick letting you know he didn't mean to do it.
He adverted "Missclick x2" and shot me twice, with a semi-automatic gun (meaning you have to physically click twice on your mouse to shoot twice.)

(01-11-2019, 08:49 PM)Joshua Ocampo Wrote: The shots only hit you and wasn't a continued missclick
Only I was near him, and it was a continued missclick, as he clicked twice.

(01-11-2019, 08:49 PM)Joshua Ocampo Wrote: None of you had any evidence that the shot was done on purpose.
He aimed at me, hence why the shots hit me... twice.

(01-11-2019, 08:49 PM)Joshua Ocampo Wrote: He shot for the meme in the beggining but he didn't kill you for the meme.
Like I said in the report, shooting "for the meme" is invalid, it doesn't matter if I died or not, I was still damaged, making it RDM.

#4
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2019, 09:22 PM by Joshua Ocampo.)

As I said, none of you had any evidence of this not being a missclick, sadly logs don't show miliseconds
You said he aimed at you and shot, how am I supposed to know there was a delay, for you to shoot it takes one click that can be almost as fast as he can press his mouse. When he said it was a missclick you said it wasn't then none of you have any video or screenshot of any sort. Shooting twice doesnt mean that he meant to aim at you and tried to kill you.
Of what I can tell by the logs two shots where shot right after eachother, you could have ran in front of him trying to get killed. He shot for the meme is not a valid reason to shoot yeah, I also told him to not do it "for the meme" shown in the picture.
Hence my punishment.
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#5

(01-11-2019, 09:20 PM)Joshua Ocampo Wrote: how am I supposed to know there was a delay
Obviously there is a delay, a Spas-12 is semi-automatic.
Especially since the server has an 8 tick rate (i think) shooting two shots will have a delay.

(01-11-2019, 09:20 PM)Joshua Ocampo Wrote: you could have ran in front of him trying to get killed.
If I had ran infront of Hxveyyy, he would have said something during the sit, whether he had evidence or not. If he had anything which justified the kill, he would have said so, but all he said was that it was "for the meme."
The evidence of it not being a missclick, was the fact that he aimed at me, and shot me twice using a semi automatic gun. (He had to CLICK twice)

#6

And well here we go again, the evidence of him aiming at you is non excistent. It's basically word for word, I said "you could have ran in front of him" there is also a lot of diffirent things that could have happened without proof there is not much more to be said from my side. Shooting for the meme is not a good reason that I can agree on but the sole intent behind it was probably not to kill you from what I could tell.
The logs said he shot twice in 1 second, can't see the milliseconds, hard to justefy if it was indeed a missclick as he said it was or if he treid to kill you as you said, therefor I gave him a verbal warning and asked him to stop shooting for the meme.
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#7
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2019, 11:38 PM by *Milk.)

So aslong as I hop on the server, and make sure to missclick people without any recording software, I won't be punished?
Me: https://streamable.com/qkydj

"Shooting for the meme" also means he intentionally shot the weapon and didn't have a valid reason to be shooting or even holding a weapon out. This also means that the "missclick" advert is invalid as it wasn't a missclick.

Close Report Babes

#8

Accepted Ill talk to joshua about this





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